Q
OF THE WEEK:
Hi
Carol
I enjoy peeking at the Ruff House News and everyone's answers
to the training questions. I don't know if you would like to use
this question, but I would be very interested in hearing peoples'
responses. Thanks!
From Elin Zander
A
gal at work asked told me this story about her dog. The dog was
in her crate in a house by herself. The house caught fire. Fortunately
they were able to grab the dog and crate before the dog got hurt.
It got so hot, however, the gal burned her hands on the crate
carrying it out of the house. The dog now refuses to go in a crate
and freaks out everytime they leave her in their new house alone.
Classic sep anxiety symptoms (peeing in the house etc.) Perfectly
logical on the part of the dog, no? I gave her Pat Miller's article
about dealing with separation anxiety, explained why punishing
the dog for her "accidents" wouldn't work, and suggested that
she might want to try kenneling the dog outside somehow when they
had to leave her alone. I didn't even try to start on how to deal
with the crate issue...As far as ever "curing" the dog so that
she is willing to go back in a crate or be alone in the house
- is that possible? Is treating this like separation anxiety enough
or is there something more they could be doing?

FIRST
IN from Kim Imel!:
Very interesting. My initial gut reaction not so much separation
anxiety (just going by the history) but more of a post traumatic
stress syndrome thing. It may just be a matter of semantics and
not quite sure where I am going with this yet, will give it some
thought this weekend. But initially I am thinking that seperation
anx stems from an over attachment to the human. This dog did not
have that, but had a sever trauma when alone in the house. So
to anthropromorphize it is not a case of "Oh my god, mom's leaving
and never coming back....must get to her....must dig my way out....must
dive thru the window" but a case of "Oh my god I am alone in the
house, it is going to explode in flames.....must get out....must
save myself......" I wonder what the dog does if there is a fire
in the fire place or in a fire pit on the beach..... Okay, thinking
about it. Have a feeling the treatment is basically the same.
Will formulate some thoughts and email you later this weekend.
WONDERFUL,
Kim!
AND
NEXT IN - Nancy Z !!
I started this at about 0620 yesterday morning. I wanted to clean
it up, but pretty much have run out of brain power. It's been
a long week!
Not
really an answer... actually, more questions. Just an immediate
response which I may regret when my Einstein brain kicks in later
in the morning. Am I on the right course? Here are thoughts that
rattled around in my brain: What a horrendous experience! Do dogs
suffer from "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder" or does it simply
break down into the individual pieces, such as association, separation
anxiety and crate training? I wonder if they have separated the
"crating issue" from the "home alone" issue? If not, wouldn't
that be a place to start? It's a new house, that's gotta be a
consideration. Good or bad? Both? No doubt, after such a traumatic
experience, the dog may never be able to acclimate to a crate
again. I don't think I'd force that issue. What about an X-pen?
It serves a similar purpose without being the same "picture".
I
think it's great they both immediately had the same question -
is it really classic SA?
AND
YAY Diane!!
In response to the dog in the fire question, can't wait to hear
what everyone says. I know some of you know Elin and possibly
even the dog in question.
I
cannot imagine the torture that dog went through. Being in a fire
is scarey enough, but being trapped in a box in a fire, well,
if it were me, I don't think I'd ever be the same. I don't know
that I'd call this separation anxiety as much as fear of a repeat
situation. And the smell of smoke lingers for a very long time.
Are they still in the same house? Maybe not. Anyway, some ideas.
I wouldn't crate this dog for some time. I don't think this is
a situation where "getting right back on the horse" will be tolerable.
The dog could become fearful beyond rehab.
If
they are in the same house, I'd leave the dog somewhere else while
gone to work. Like Play n Stay, or a friend or family member.
If that isn't possible, have the house professionally "defumed"
and leave the dog gated, not crated, in a comfortable room with
several stuffed kongs, a radio on, any and all antil stress techniques
that will help the dog.
If
they are in a new, home, I'd do the gated room. I wouldn't try
to crate this dog for a long time. Depending on just how bad the
fear/anxiety of being left alone is, they might even need some
calming meds for awhile.
I
was thinking about this sort of scenario the other day when on
the news they showed that dog lying on his side after being rescued
from a burning house. I wondered why someone wasn't hanging with
the dog. Perhaps all the family was off the the ER. This is as
traumatic a situation for the animals as it is for the humans.
I'd have nightmares for a long time if it was me, bettcha.
AND
FROM CATHY! :
What
a terrifying thing for that poor dog to have gone through. Sounds
like she is a very lucky girl.
The
first thing I would question is your comment about "classic sep
anxiety symptoms (peeing in the house, etc.)" What else does she
do in the house when the owner is gone? How does she "freak out"?
Does she destroy stuff?, is she franticly trying to get out of
the house -- tearing up the drywall, or doing destructive behaviors
at and or to the door? Is she hurting herself trying to get out?
How long is this dog left alone for? It's a bit difficult to come
up with a good management and behavior modification plan to help
this gal out with her dog's behavior without more specific details,
but with the info we were given I'll give it a shot.
I
think Elin is totally on target with the explanation of why punishing
the dog for peeing in the house doesn't work. I also think it's
really good advice to try kenneling her outside when they aren't
at home. It's no wonder that the dog has a problem going back
into the crate right now. Although it totally depends on the dog
(and how it is done on the part of the owner), I think getting
her comfortable with a crate again is probably doable -- but I
think it's gonna take a lot of time and patience. Dealing with
something that a dog has become so sensitized to is certainly
no easy task. Quite frankly in this case, I think I would put
the new crate into the garage for one or two months and deal with
some of the other things first, starting with a good check up.
Lets just make sure she's physically okay. I'm assuming before
the fire happened, she was housebroken. The next thing is to get
this girl some really good exercise on a regular basis. I realize
that exercise won't cure SA, if that's what it is, but it will
tire her out a bit. If it's at all possible to put her outside
in a good size kennel when you are gone to work and then do on
some "trial" very short departures while she is in the house and
you are home and have time to work on this problem. Go through
the motions of "leaving" -- grab the keys, put a sweater on, pick
up your purse, etc., and then sometimes not leave at all; sometimes
leave for 30 seconds and come back; 2 minutes and come back; 5
minutes, 45 seconds, etc. Do that at least 87 times a week for
several weeks *S*.
Another
good exercise is to implement a good NILIF plan. This will give
a great boost to her confidence level, and also a sigh of relief
that she no longer has to be in charge -- she can trust her mom
to take care of things for her and she won't have to carry that
burden. Something else that you may want to try is that the only
way she gets to eat is through brain toys -- Kongs, Bustercubes,
etc. This should really help if you give her those things only
when you are going to leave.
If
you still want to try to get her over her feeling of terror of
being in the crate, I would suggest to put it on the back porch
for a few days, with the top off. Just let it sit there. Then
move it into the house, but only a short way. Most probably that
is the kitchen. With the top still off you could either feed her
a few feet from the crate, or give her the things she loves best
only when she's near the crate. You could try tossing some really
really tasty treats in the crate and then move up to giving her
dinner in the topless crate. Only move on to the next step when
she is totally comfortable with the previous step.
Then
turn the top over, but don't put in on top of the bottom yet.
Get her used to seeing the top and the bottom as separate pieces.
After that goes okay, then slowly creep the top onto the bottom
of the crate starting with the back. This entire process could
end up taking several weeks or months. You never want the dog
to feel trapped, or a "gotcha!" and close the door on her. In
fact the door to the crate shouldn't even be on it yet. Closing
the door on the crate for a few seconds and then opening it is
again, several weeks away in my opinion.
These
are just some ideas that came to my mind. I would really want
to get some detailed information before putting a plan into action.
Great
job, guys!!
As always, I love your thought processes
and problem solving!
I
agree with Cathy that more detailed information is needed before
we can map out a plan. I also agree with everyone that, unless
the dog was a clingy co-dependent dog to begin with, this isn't
true "separation anxiety." Co-dependent panic at separation
from the pack and a phobia of being confined as a result of a
terrifying situation would be different, although treatment would
be similar.
The
hardest part of the role of behavior counselor is remaining sensitive
AND objective. Sometimes what surely "must be" the reason
for behavior, sometimes isn't, or is, but to a lesser degree than
we think. I think the biggest challenge when addressing treatment
following a traumatic experience is to get to the root of the
issue and help a traumatized owner as well as dog find answers
and a way to cope and get passed this. So, here's my response:
This
dog and her humans endured a terror we can only imagine - but
what exactly is the behavioral result of its traumatic experience
and what is just coincidental to the situation? Before we recommend
treatment, we have to analyze what's going on.
How
much stress is owner transmitted? The
owner is probably also feeling some sense of responsibility for
leaving their dog in a compromised position and suffer from their
own "post traumatic stress" following the event. No
doubt they envision not getting there in time.
I
counseled a woman whose dogs were in her car when she was in a
frightening traffic accident. She called for help, convinced that
they were traumatized from the accident as they were frantic in
the car. Now, we could have laid out a concentrated step-by-step
"desensitize the car" program. However, further observation
determined that they weren't freaking out when riding with dad
in dad's car. They were less comfortable if mom was in the car
and dad was driving. They stress-panted and paced and whined if
mom drove dad's car. Were they afraid of mom's driving? No. They
were afraid because mom was tense, she kept telling them "it's
ok" and held her breath and gasped whenever a car came up
to fast on a side street. She clutched the wheel and drove "urgently."
They were mirroring her stress, not their own fear of what "might
happen" but hers. Dogs don't dwell on the past or worry about
the future. The dog never wonders if he left the stove on. (Teaching
the woman to sigh and yawn and sing nursery rhymes made all of
them feel better!) When the woman recovered from her ordeal,
the dogs were back to their old heads hanging out the windows,
enjoy the ride selves.
I
loved that Kim & Diane both mentioned the smell of smoke and
watching to see what the dog's response is to that smell. It may
or may not be an issue. I'm presuming that due to smoke damage,
their new house has new furniture and few of the dog's secure
base household items still exist (adding to the difficulty transitioning),
and any old items that came with them probably still have a lingering
smell of smoke (even with professional fumigating, it's likely
the dog can still smell it.) This is probably true of her once
safe haven, her crate.
The
treatment would be similar to SA in that we are desensitizing
an emotional response to being left in the new house, re-introduction
to the crate, or transition to being left free in the house (possibly
before she's really mature/responsible enough to be.) First
we have to define what are the real issues and how committed are
the humans to work through them? Diane's point that "flooding"
the dog by forcing the issue could push her over the edge is a
valid concern. It is a delicate balance between supporting confident
behavior without pushing her beyond her ability to cope; or the
opposite, enabling fearful avoidance by coddling.
Dogs
learn "in context" and by association.
This is certainly a perfect example of what could be "single
event learning." How would the dog answer the question: "scary
things happen when ..." Is the dog's perspective of the perceived
danger that "crates are dangerous" or "closed doors
are dangerous" or "owners leaving is dangerous."
If they put her in the crate and go to bed with her in the same
room, is she still freaked out? Is she clingy and won't let them
out of her sight, pacing, tail tucked and whale eyed as soon as
they pick up their car keys? On a scale of 1-10 how severe is
the stress level? Is she pretty worried, some outward stress (panting
vocalizing), frantic, in total terror? This will tell you where
and how to direct a desensitization program. If "closed doors
are dangerous" - how about a dog door? This might solve the
claustraphobia and the peeing in the house! It would also
help with boredom behaviors.
Supervision
and confinement: Play-n-Stay is a great idea! Gating,
ex-pens, outdoor kennel are also all good suggestions. A different
style of crate could be a simple answer if it's just "the"
crate. Starting with just using as a toy box, feeding her in it,
sleeping in it next to the bed while they sleep etc. Kongs and
brain toys to keep the dog occupied and as a stress-reliever.
Maintaining a normal daily pattern, calm comings & goings
with no "you'll be fine" goodbyes or warnings to stay
out of trouble, or celebrations or scoldings upon return. Secure
pack order, leaving the radio/TV on, making things as NORMAL as
possible in an abnormal adjustment period are key. All of these
things will help whether it is new situation stress or post traumatic
stress.
They
might also look into homeopathic remedies like Rescue Remedy,
DAP diffusers, or if it truly is severe PTS, behavior medicines
(prozac type) to facilitate the dog's transition back to normalcy.
Do they need the dog to get back to being comfortable in a crate,
or would other confinement options work as well? Owners need to
realize that what they want may not be possible or may take a
lot of time and patience to accomplish. Sometimes alternative
management solutions are easier.
The
bottom line:
Is
her behavior the result of trauma, (assumed) "deliberate
disobedience" (you are right, Elin, punishment will only
make matters worse no matter why the dog is doing what it's doing.)
Or more probably, a combination of a little post traumatic stress
coupled with too much freedom in a new environment and absence
of the security of familiar surroundings and daily patterns.
Success
depends on objective treatment of observable behavior without
over-emotionalizing. Using the "Principles of Parsimony"
(yes, Cathy, it's that damned CPDT test again!) we must first
assume that "unless evidence is given to the contrary, the
simplest explanation is probably true" and work from there.
Q
OF THE WEEK FOLLOW-UP:
Q
of the week part 2 from Kim:
Okay,
here are some more of my thoughts. Sorry if I repeat some things
from my first email.
From
the brief history we have, I dont think the dog is suffering from
Sep. Anx. This stems from an over attachment to the owner. The
anxiety starts long before the seperation. It can start as soon
as the alarm clock goes off (alarm going off indicates gonna leave
for work at some point, no alarm means its the weekend and mom
is staying home) and can last for a long time after the owner
has returned. "Classic signs....urinating....." Inappropriate
eliminations in a dog that is housetrained, medically sound and
is not suffering from BBS (Bursting Bladder Syndrome---"MOM!!!
Its been 14 hours....cant wait....must potty) can be a sign of
anxiety of any kind. The dog who urinates and deficates in the
reception room of the vet clinic with mom at the end of the lead
is not suffering from SepAnx, but it is anxious. So, while it
is a symptom of SepAnx, that is not the only thing inappropriate
elimination can be a sign of. However, how the owner handles the
dog prior to leaveing and upon return can create SepAnx.
What
I think is going on here is more of a Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
A dog who was fine alone, in the house, in a crate until a traumatic
event occurs. I would imagin that working thru this would be very
simular to SepAnx but I still think it is important to know where
the anxiety is steming from.
Some
additional things I would want to know is how the dog responds
to:
being
in the house with the owner
being in the yard with the owner
being in the yard alone
being in/near a crate in the yard
fire in the fireplace
a bic liter
flash lights
lanterns
flash on a camera
a smokey smell (brush fire/slash pile burning)
loud sharp peircing noises
What
potential components of the event are still triggers for the anxiety?
Find the dogs comfort zones and begin working from there. Break
down the fire event into as many little pieces as you can and
desensitize the dog to each component. Being alone in a house,
in a crate, the smoke, the smoke/fire alarm, the flames, people
running and shouting while dog in crate.
Is
the dog okay outside and is there anyway a chainlink iwth a top
run can be constructed for the dogs safety? Have her stay there
durring the day until she can feel comfortable in the house. Start
working withthe crate outside. Play 101 things to do with a crate.
When feeling comfortable ahve a second crate in the house. Play
101 things to do with a crate. When comfortable, start crate training
from scratch.
Work
with her to desenstize her to lights, flames, smoke. No the houe
may never go up in flames again, and no they may not have a fireplace
so whats the big deal about the work with fire? On the off chance
they take the dog camping and every one sits down around the campfire...how
is that dog gonna react? You dont want a panic attack in the middle
of the woods.
Keep
working to prevent SepAnx. One anxiety disorder is enough to work
with. I would also imagine that like SepAnx, drug therapy would
help with the treatment/behavior modification regiem.